Post by Agent Regina on Apr 21, 2004 11:50:50 GMT -5
Ghost in the shell was one of my very first anime movies to watch, I adore it, and still do. There is so much symbolism if you look pretty closely,.....one of the most fave scenes of mine has to be where she is on a boat, and sees herself as both completely human and completely life-less (a maniquin,......I bet I spelt that wrong huh, do forgive me.) also the end battle has to be another great one.
However,...what really really annoys me,.....is people, saying how great and original the Matrix is when it clearly has many things copied from this great piece of anime,.....don't get me wrong, yeah the Matrix is ok, it's not a terrible film.....but ughhh,.......*Regina looks distraught*........I've had many arguements in my time about this film, especially in my old English lessons at School, and still it gets my goat. Khm,......sorry about that, but,......as an Otaku,......you have to understand what I mean.
Anyway,........have you heard about a Ghost in the Shell 2? I saw it on the Sci-fi cable channel about July time last year, and the presenter of a show called Saiko Exciting, which showed two anime series, showed some footage and said some gossip etc.
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Post by Challenger on Apr 21, 2004 14:18:09 GMT -5
Hum hard to say exactly why I like this film I just do. It was ammung the first anime I watched and was the first film. (Though admittadly I had to finish watching it much later in the year as I was dead on my feet at 4 am trying to watch it and couldn't stay awake any later and get up on time)
I prefer Patlabor mainly because I tend to prefer detective mysteries to physcology that to be honest I have little understanding of but Ghost in the Shell is none the less very good. Heck second place out of every anime films I've seen isn't bad.
I've heard about the second film but no release date in the US to my knowledge. Anoyingly the series hasn't been released in the UK either.
I agree that alot of the Matrix is borrowed from Ghost in the Shell. However some of it is so obvious I wonder if the theory that the directors were paying tribute at times is true. (ei the mellon shooting scene)
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Post by Black Robed One on Apr 23, 2004 6:18:48 GMT -5
(TO BRO IF HE REPLIES)Now don't try tellig me this one ain't good (No offense meant)
Don't worry, I won't!
Well, to be truthful, it depands on whether your are talking about the first Ghost in the Shell movie (the one about Puppetmaster), the second Ghost in the Shell movie ("Innocence", which is continuation of the first Ghost in the Shell movie) or Ghost in the Shell TV series ("Stand Alone Complex", which seem to be completely unrelated to either of Ghost in the Shell movies).
The first Ghost in the Shell movie was truly great, and it definately among my favorite anime, although not in my top 10. I have never seen ANY anime or film that was depicting Cyberpunk reality better. And no other anime asked so many questions which naturally come from bringing technology on the level high enough to create not only artificial intelligence, but a self-aware aritificial consciousness. Also the characters of Batou and Major Motoko are very interesting, although on negative note I must add that many more minor characters are depicted and developed rather poorly for my liking. And finally (although it is both last and least reason I liked the first Ghost in the Shell movie), the animation is truly great.
The second Ghost in the Shell movie, which I have seen only recently, IMHO looks rather pale comparing to the first Ghost in the Shell movie, both in contents and animation. But must I admit that I have seen it only once so far, and so, I would prefer to avoid making any bold statements about it. I will pin-point only one very obvious mistake - Major Motoko seemed the recieve a "post-mortem" (SPOILER: after the first Ghost in the Shell movie Major Motoko is missing and belived to be dead) demotion into Leiutenant and everybody just forget that she once was a Major. A very serious mistake from my point of view.
I must say, however, that personally I didn't like Ghost in the Shell TV series. Even though characters' get more screen time for development, their personalities pales comaring to Ghost in the Shell movies, and in fact in Ghost in the Shell movies characters' personalities were developed far better then in Ghost in the Shell TV series. The plotline isn't especially interesting, and develops rather slowly. Certain series are actually boring to watch. Animation isn't really bad, but it definately not on the same level as it was in the first Ghost in the Shell movie. In short, I didn't like Ghost in the Shell TV series much; I watched about half of them, and then decided that they aren't really worth what I am paying for them.
Post by lightning123456 on Apr 26, 2004 5:59:42 GMT -5
As for Ghost in the shell...Well its not bad but, not my big favorite. Angel cops was pretty damn good(that was what I was watching when you called Wretch)but it wouldn't be any good to kids since there is a hole lot of the F-words, brains splatter and some minor nudity, but if your old enough to take it go right ahead its pretty cool.
A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is braver five minutes longer. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 - 1882)