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Post by OmniWyvernil on Jun 6, 2004 0:03:35 GMT -5
The lunatic genasi should be gaining a bit more confidence from here on out... and getting a bit more loony, as well. Both should prove key to finally getting rid of that blasted curse, heheheh...
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 6, 2004 1:00:39 GMT -5
Even if you can't do *extra damage* with a sneak attack to undead, you can still attack them while sneaking...
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Post by Blade on Jun 6, 2004 14:46:46 GMT -5
While the rest of us get wailed on Was there any point my doing weapons drill?
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Greghoul
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Post by Greghoul on Jun 6, 2004 16:35:03 GMT -5
only if your going to fix some undead cavities
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 6, 2004 20:33:17 GMT -5
LoL.... Ok... I'll explain a little
Just so that it is clear, in this RP, the only combat techniques that Gemstone knows are her version of Bladesong, sneak attacking, and ranged combat...
She doesn't have a bow with her, so ranged combat is out of the question,...
The Dual-Blade variation of Bladesong that Gemstone uses, requires alot of space, and some very solid footing... Bladesong is basically an extreamly elegant, graceful, recherché dance... and useing it with two blades, instead of one, requires ALOT of room... It is supposed to be a breathtaking, awe-inspiring, wonder to behold,.... Unlike the moves of a Blade (A person useing the Blade kit) which are designed to invoke fear and terror in, and intimidate, an opponent...
Being as that the floor is so slippery that even a rat slipped on it, Gemstone cannot use Bladesong in here...
Sooooo... That leaves her other form of attack... Gemstone has the ability to move into and out of shadows with unnatural ease, so performing sneak attacks are very easy for her, and while undead creatures have no vital organs to attack, attacking them from the back (where they can't see you), does the same damage as attacking from the front.
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Post by Greghoul on Jun 6, 2004 23:29:52 GMT -5
If my brain wakes up it would have to agree with you *yawn* boy am I up late, I'll be on again in about 24 hours so see you guys then
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Post by Blade on Jun 7, 2004 12:24:33 GMT -5
I was merely pointing out the other perspective; by dropping into the shadows to fight, it leaves fewer targets for the creatures and inherently puts the other characters in more difficulty.
You are perfectly able to fight "normally" while visible, just not in some "special" manner which you are accustomed to.
You also seem to have gotten the wrong impression of the Blade fighting style. The majority is for show; to impress rather than intimidate, though the latter is used in one of their abilities.
Something I've noted recently is a falling amount of interaction between PCs.. any reason?
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 7, 2004 13:53:34 GMT -5
I'll respond as I can.... I was merely pointing out the other perspective; by dropping into the shadows to fight, it leaves fewer targets for the creatures and inherently puts the other characters in more difficulty. Yes and no... You hit part of Gemstone's plan right on the head... Gemstone knows that when she goes into the shadows, the mummy will turn to attack either Crista, Greghoul, or Avana... This *is* her plan... When the mummy has its back to her, that is when she will attack it... As far as putting the other characters into more danger by her going into the shadows, I say the answer is no... or rather no more danger than if she fought her mummy toe-to-toe... Gemstone knows how well Avana and Crista fight, and how well they can defend themselves... and it isn't like Gemstone is leaving the fight... She is still there, and still fighting... While it is true that it will give two of the mummys a chance to gang up on one player, it also, at the same time, gives two players a chance to gang up on one mummy, and as long as that player is able to defend themselves, it will make all of the mummys that much easier to kill. You are perfectly able to fight "normally" while visible, just not in some "special" manner which you are accustomed to. ?!?... Gemstone is only trained with bladesong, and does not know how to fight "normally"... Gemstone doesn't know the first thing about attacking with a sword in any other way than useing Bladesong... Bladesong isn't a technique that you learn to use while fighting with a sword... Bladesong is a style of fighting that you use a sword with, and the only style that Gemstone knows... You also seem to have gotten the wrong impression of the Blade fighting style. The majority is for show; to impress rather than intimidate, though the latter is used in one of their abilities. I do relize that the Blade kit isn't the best combat kit around... I have the Complete Bard HandBook, and have read about the Blade kit in its entireity, and I do understand that it is a very showy, flashy style... But when you engage *an enemy* in armed combat, you aren't trying to impress them... to make them think "Hey, this chick is pretty good."... You are trying to intimidate them, and make them fear you, right?.... Or am I still missing the point? Something I've noted recently is a falling amount of interaction between PCs.. any reason? Well,... This could be because Iggy, Greghoul, Crista, Avana, Keely and Gemstone are the only ones left in our group... Everyone else seems to have taken a hiatus...
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Post by Blade on Jun 7, 2004 19:55:26 GMT -5
Regarding Blade fighting techniques:
A blade practicies their style for their own amusement, to suit their own ego and to impress their comerades. The opinions of your foes do not matter as they will doon be dead, there is little need to insight fear into them unless you are in difficulty. Interestingly enough, I have found that few Blades actually use offensive spin ( the only ability which indicates any intimidation) outside of entertainment and staged duels.
Regarding Gem's "plan". From others perspective it simply put her into safety and them in danger; whether or not which is true, both povs are valid. Considering Avana and Iggy are unarmoured to avoid spellcasting problems, Crista and Keely in leathers and Greghoul in a lighter chain than yourself, it is clear from any perspective you must more the most able in defense...
Regarding Bladesong:
True, bladesong is a style rather than an ability, but it is inconcievable that any bladesinger worth their salt is not taught a method of fighting in enclosed or unstable spaces without resrting to steath which by standard rules bladesingers dont even get access to. Its simply illogical.
Regarding people:
Yes, I am perfectly aware that there are a large number of people whih have dropped out. What I am referring to is the fact that even the remaining characters seem to only be interacting with Crista and NPCs.
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 7, 2004 23:01:31 GMT -5
I changed the order just a little bit to answer them as best I could... Regarding Blade fighting techniques: A blade practicies their style for their own amusement, to suit their own ego and to impress their comerades. The opinions of your foes do not matter as they will doon be dead, there is little need to insight fear into them unless you are in difficulty. Interestingly enough, I have found that few Blades actually use offensive spin ( the only ability which indicates any intimidation) outside of entertainment and staged duels. Ah-ha... I see... I was viewing your character, as a Blade, a little more cynically... leaning towards the assassin side instead of the bard side... Regarding Bladesong: True, bladesong is a style rather than an ability, but it is inconcievable that any bladesinger worth their salt is not taught a method of fighting in enclosed or unstable spaces without resrting to steath which by standard rules bladesingers dont even get access to. Its simply illogical. This is completely true... ... ... Normally... ... ... However, at the begining of my characters introduction here, in this PBMB RP, I stated in my characters history that she was trained at Bladesong untill she was 14yrs old when she ran away from home... In this RPG Gemstone is not what you would call a master bladesinger... She only has a working knowledge of Bladesong... She is good at it, but never had time to learn any other forms of combat,... She is, however, a master of stealth and traps... Regarding Gem's "plan". From others perspective it simply put her into safety and them in danger; whether or not which is true, both povs are valid. Considering Avana and Iggy are unarmoured to avoid spellcasting problems, Crista and Keely in leathers and Greghoul in a lighter chain than yourself, it is clear from any perspective you must more the most able in defense... In responce to this, I am going to quote LWW: Yes, we worked out your character, but in your posts, your character keeps coming across as more wonderful than all the other players......for this group to work together, no one character is more important than another....each person has a place in this rp, and the interaction between all is important as well. By coming across as high and mighty.....you're just alienating yourself." I am trying to down-play my character, and give everyone else a chance... If you guys really want me to go all out and try to be the heroic champion here, I could do that... But, I am not trying to play that kind of character here... By useing the sneak attack strategy I'm trying to give you guys a chance to have a good fight, with Gemstone backing you guys up.... Regarding people: Yes, I am perfectly aware that there are a large number of people whih have dropped out. What I am referring to is the fact that even the remaining characters seem to only be interacting with Crista and NPCs. I have been trying not to interact with the other players *too* much, as the last time I tried to be helpfull between two of them, I got into alot of trouble... I am still trying to interact some though...
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 8, 2004 4:40:31 GMT -5
Oopssssss..... Ummm..... LWW.... When we were working on my character sheet, I asked if my swords could have a magical property instead of a bonus since we aren't useing numbers in this RPG... I diddn't (at the time) see any use for having a +1 (or whatever) because we aren't useing the math... but you wouldn't go for it, so we decided just to make the swords twin swords... Oopsssss... Both Kieva and Kiava are twin blades, but neither one is magical....
None of the weapons that Gemstone is carrying are magical...
I do have one idea though... Since Keely is kinda out of commission for the moment, and my weapons are useless... perhaps, since Gemstone is the only one left in the group who can heal others with proficiency, she could move to Keely and stabilize her, then "borrow" Keely's +1 crossbow for a short time?...
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Post by Blade on Jun 8, 2004 6:44:17 GMT -5
A quick question LWW: Was anyone effected by weaponsdrill?
As for swords.. gee.. am I the only one with a magic blade around here? Her on-hand sword is magical.
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Post by Gemstone on Jun 8, 2004 13:42:12 GMT -5
Actually, Blade, I belive that Avana has two...
Besides your main sword, you have that magic dagger that was found on the "tree that isn't a tree" after it was killed...
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Post by Blade on Jun 8, 2004 16:56:29 GMT -5
hmm.. I was lead to believe the only thing magical about the dagger was that it acted as a passtone.. We shall see.. I'll finish Avana's action when I get a response from the dragon... I'll either cast Minute (I cant spell) Meteors, or be the first in mellee...
IIRC Greghoul doesnt have magiked weapons.. gah!
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Post by OmniWyvernil on Jun 9, 2004 1:22:02 GMT -5
Well, looks like everyone's got to put their faith in th' fire, heheheh! And into Iggy's lame mummy puns as well. (I remember him making similar jokes about the wights in the previous Guild of Thieves thread (on the PADnD boards)). BTW, since the fairy dragon suggested for Iggy to use fire, I'm guessing it's safe. This probably isn't quite what Juju had in mind, but then again, that loony genasi tends to interpret things the way he wants to interpret them. About character interaction, I've been having Iggy respond to most of the comments directed at him. Maybe he should be a little more active in interacting with the others... But be careful what you wish for, you might just get it...
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