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Post by Treva on Oct 19, 2003 1:35:34 GMT -5
Ok Gir so what if they have their stupid invunerable saves... And most of the time... NO THEY WONT CHARGE
I have seen how this lays out and even if the blood letters do get into combat with my honor guard their numbers are dwindling because of the other marines... And after that the Blood letters still have to deal with the 36 attacks that will most likly wound with a good percentage... And I have plasma weapons riddling the squad to kill the blood letters even faster... it would be like one big barbaque.
And dont call me a newb... My army is tried tested and true... I have played for 2 years perfecting it and the new chaos are still melted by my army...
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Post by GIR on Oct 19, 2003 19:11:16 GMT -5
they get charge all the time, deamons come into before the movement phase, then they move then charge. so how do you make them not charge. ? ? ? and just becasue yo uplay for 2 years does not mean you know what your doing. and we have tried your army, its a really good army, but its not the perfect army.
Also they both have same Int so it will be same time. and you would not get a save at all, so your number would be goin faster. becasue of the 5 Str they have, and you only get +1 Str and +1 Int when you charge not get charge.
And you did not say anyhting about keeping your apoacary out of combat ? ? am i right or wrong on that. your argument seems to be getting smaller.
oh just got to add, of you say your not a n00b then why did you say this "stupid invunerable saves" if you know anythign about the game invunerable saves are good.
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Post by Treva on Oct 19, 2003 19:14:31 GMT -5
Lol You dont have my army design only a bit of my honor guard... And the blood letters will be charging a land raider... Blow it up... followed by my honor guard jumping them ;D
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Post by GIR on Oct 19, 2003 19:19:16 GMT -5
if theycome in that turn,and there will be lascannons, or other things to take your LRs out. not just bloodletters, and also post you army list then. and ill post one that can take it out.
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Post by Treva on Oct 19, 2003 19:39:52 GMT -5
Anybody can design a Army for the soul purpose of killing another army... But how many can make a all-around army good at killing everything... Sure my army isent perfect... But it dosent fail me against any race for thier standard armies... You could post any army and someone could design somthing to kill it so
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Post by GIR on Oct 19, 2003 19:42:40 GMT -5
but you said that nothing Chaos can send will hurt your army, that is what im trying to prove wrong. and i am right, chaos can make a army that can kill yours. can it??? also in any chaos army, having blootletters, is a must unless your a Iron Warroir army.
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Post by GIR on Oct 19, 2003 19:50:49 GMT -5
In my experience the only thing that can claim that title is the Wraith Lord and then with the correction. "Only if there are no imperial guard or dark eldar armys arround" Added on I've watched my Terminators die to gretchin on an all to regular basis and I've also watched my scouts sweep all before them. (Unless they get shot first turn or run into a Chaos Lord. I've lost death company to las-guns (embarising) And watched then take down an entire army on their own. The dice can take that 10 man super unit and destroy it with 10 unlucky dice roles One thing I have noticed you use a Land Raider as a transport? So your slower than normal meaning I've getting atleast one turn of shooting off. So every melta weapon I have shoots the tank which will hopefully destroy it stun it. Well now your honour guards sitting in the open so I do two things. First every krak missile and lascannon not used to knock out the raider is aimed at them. Next my assult units attack them hitting first and causeing all kinds of mayhem. Unless this is a seriously big game that many points killed should win me the game. (You do however know this honor guard is worthless vs Dark Elder right?) Just thought of something. The two weapons Choas can bring to bear that will wipe out that combo. Basilisk and Vindicator Challenger yuppers, Iron warriors with 4 heavy support, in a 3000 point game u think that can make it 8 support. thats a lot of lascannons, and the new Difiler has the battle cannons, and Iron warroirs do not have the 0-1 on Obiliatiors. I just LOVE them, look cool, and are really good units.
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Post by Treva on Oct 19, 2003 20:04:05 GMT -5
Ok pal if I'm facing a army with Blood letter's chances are most of the army is going to be based around close combat and I'll just simply not be the first to advance... My army is just as potent in the shooting phase as it is in the assault phase... Tactics man... You wanna send blood letters at me? I'll gun them down with bolter fire... Heavy weapons? Ever heard of hiding behind terrain?
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Post by GIR on Oct 19, 2003 20:08:42 GMT -5
but it will not all be, lascannons, and artilary will be at you. and all you got is bolt pistols, and bolters. and 4 las form the raiders, Tactics man Tactics
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Post by Treva on Oct 19, 2003 20:32:46 GMT -5
Actualy the landraider has huricane bolters And you heard me when I said devistator squads right? I have 2 one has 2 las cannons and 2 Multi-melta's the other has 4 heavy bolters... Then you dident go and forget my predator did you? Side sponsons... And the big guns will be taking down your artillery... Geeze dude Ive seen how these games work...
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Post by GIR on Oct 20, 2003 0:33:58 GMT -5
ROFL
you have so just proven your a noob,
there are four convertions for the landraider, the main one has two twin-linked lascannons, and a twin-link heavy bolter.
the one with the two "hurricane" pattern bolters with assault cannon and a multimelta, and a frag assault launchers is the Land Raider Crusader, first showen in the Armageddon codex, under the Black templars.
the helios Land raider has the same two twin-link lascannons, and it also has a large missle launcher.
Also the Prometheus command land raider, i dont know the stats on it but it does look like it has a pintle mounted storm bolter, and four twin link heavy bolters.
so n00b there is more then just one, and they are all legal and can be use in any game.
also i dont remember you saying anything about Dev squads, so no sorry i did not hear that, maybe you should have said something.
tell me how many points is the game you play is, ill make a list and show you. and you show me your list.
and you will not be the only one with guns, or have you forgot. iron warroirs will have 8 heavy support and 9 or 18 Obliterator Cult, depending on game size. how bout this, ill do just a Iron warroir army, so i cant use bloodletters, or any deamons, other then my lord. thats the rules. and see. are you up to it. or are you goin to skip that part becasue you know im right. .; )
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Post by Treva on Oct 20, 2003 11:42:42 GMT -5
Heavy weapons TAU armies fall to mine for one
When I said THE land raider I was defining mine so STFU asshole...
And if you wanna try your little army versus mine I'll take it down any day... Just make sure its your actual army.
3500 pts is an exceptable game for me...
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Post by GIR on Oct 20, 2003 14:31:57 GMT -5
Tau, you said you got blood angels, im talking about your army blood angels, in your last post you said nothing about you having tau or being tau just that you got heavy weapons. you should read your last post dude. Tau are not in this, at all just blood angels vs Chaos no Tau, donkey-head. you said "Actualy the landraider has huricane bolters " that did not say that your version has them just that landraiders have them. You said that chaos cant beat you, so why are you scared of me using things i dont got yet.
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Post by GIR on Oct 20, 2003 14:35:09 GMT -5
adn the avg game is 1000pts for GW rules, and 2000 for normal games, let see your army fit into that.
You said nothing can beat your army, i have proven you wrong many time over, why cant you understand that you cant win 100% of the time, only n00bs say that. i have proven that darkeldar can win games, and many people think that suck and cant in any game. i only won 2 games out of about 80 or so. but i still won.
once you say your army cant win all the time, they you will be a good master of the game. untell then your a n00b
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Post by Treva on Oct 20, 2003 16:05:07 GMT -5
Actualy around here we like games that standardize at 5000 points and even some of our tournaments go up that high... I have a small army compared to the standard. 2000 points? Bah that's a quakers battle but fine...
Oh and I never said that I had a Tau army geeze read my posts why dont you... You said that you would make a army to outgun me and I rebuddled with I have a impressive history of butchering heavy weapons tau armies...
And you know what? Its people who dont have the confidence to know that they will win who are the true newbs... BTW that is how you are supposed to spell it you know because its supposed to represent people who are NEW to the game or have pathedic tactics and warriors to fight with... you know the idiots who will throw a Lemon russ into the thick of the fighting...
Now if you want to go on about this crap then go ahead but I ain't ganna give you much more of an argument because you A) Have not actualy prooven that you can beat my army you have just been shooting off that you have stratagies that would guaranteed win... Which has been atempted and failed many times before...
Finaly if your so cirtain your army will win then post it and stop braging about from what I have seen so far is not there... Then I will post models I actualy own and how I would use them to kill you.
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