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Post by Sharess on Nov 12, 2003 23:50:47 GMT -5
Yes we know that killed stuyff and they ate, drank, procreated, and that they drew those funny picuters but what eles did they do?
Did they sit around the campfire and see how far they could fling a boger? Or did they do smart type stuff?
Hussar if I have this in the wrong place sorry but it is kind of like a real world issue and it is historacal. Not to mention i just been wonding what others thought
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Post by Dr. Doom III on Nov 13, 2003 1:19:24 GMT -5
Get some of your friends and go camping. 90% of the things you'll talk about they did. Mostly about chicks, toys and the idiots in the other cave.  |
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Post by Hussar on Nov 13, 2003 1:20:29 GMT -5
Naw, s'fine. No worries love. I think that when you have to spend most of your waking hours gathering enough food for you and your family, there isn't much extra time for other things. Effectively, Eat, sleep, gather more food, eat, procreate, sleep. Wash rinse repeat for the next 40 thousand years.
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Post by Draxy on Nov 13, 2003 3:08:01 GMT -5
Actually, the gathering of food, protection and the like probably took less than the fourty hours per week per person that we base our lives on today.
I've done alot of subsistance camping, bring nothing other than a light pack, a few tools, a thick blanket and a few sundries and a good bass pole and have ended up spending almost all of my time fishing. It takes about twenty minutes to half an hour to build a decent leanto in an area where one makes sense, scrap out a fire pit and have a small campfire going.
Once in a while I wouldn't catch anything and would grab the little AR7 out of my pack, assemble it and plink a squirrel or an armidillo. Within an hour I'm eating and have enough left over, if it's an armidillo, to have a big breakfast too. Garnish with cattail roots and heart of airplant and any of the other things readily at hand and I'm eating pretty good.
Now, the caveman (who probaly didn't live in a cave by the way) didn't have the rifle or the steel hatchet or the fishing pole. What he had instead was an understanding of how to do it more efficiently than I can even imagine.
Most anthropologists now days tell us that except during the ice age, our earliest ancestors probably spent about three to five hours a day working and the rest of the time talking (about whatever) playing and screwing.
Draxy
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Nov 13, 2003 3:55:24 GMT -5
Now take everything that Draxy said, and leave out the part about the pack, tools, weapon, etc. Go out with wearing the minimum (depending on the weather)of clothing....and see what life is like. Probably closer to caveman style living doing it that way.....they didn't have great tools bought from the store, they had to first make their own before they could hunt, or put together a "lean-to", dig a firepit with your hands, not the handy dandy folding shovel. Now make the fire....sorry, no matches or lighters allowed for this.
Now go catch the food...stalk that bunny, oops, it just ran under some bramble bushes. There's goes a squirrel, right up a tree....having fun yet?
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Post by Draxy on Nov 13, 2003 4:04:25 GMT -5
Now, LLW. do all of that for a living. Do it to survive and you discover a thousand little ways to make it easier and short cuts that make it better.
I can't do it myself, because I've never learned how, but I've seen a guy that could "tease" more fish out of a brook by hand, in half an hour, than I could in three with my hi tech fishing pole and nylone line and steel hook. And I'm a damned good fisherman.
Likewise, instead of plinking the squirrel or the armidillo, if I were doing this for a living, I'd be an expert with snares and the thrown stone; able to do as much or more with them than I can with the rifle.
I'm just a dilletante, these people were the professionals. All the hi tech gadgetry in the world can't better simple know how.
Draxy
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Post by Hussar on Nov 13, 2003 4:07:58 GMT -5
True Draxy, but, there is a limit to how far you can throw a stone. What 30 feet, 50 tops and still down anything?
The tickling trout thing is probably closer to the truth. There is now a theory that instead of developing in the savana, early man was an aquatic ape. We lived near the ocean and ate almost entirely fish, fruits and vegetables, with very very little meat. The theory goes that the DHA in fish cause our brains to develop over the generations and become the brainy apes that we are today.
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Nov 13, 2003 4:12:25 GMT -5
Oh I'm sure there are many out there who do the survivalist thing well, and especially after years at it. I'm certainly not one of them, that's for sure.
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Post by Draxy on Nov 13, 2003 4:23:19 GMT -5
I've read that too Hussar.
As far as 30 feet for a stone throw: yep, that seems about the maximum. But the thrown stone doesn't need to go farther for such small game. Even I can get that close pretty easily, while the man who I learned to hunt from could get almost in touching range of even medium sized game easily and I've seen him actually brain an armidillo's with a big stick. And even he was a dilletante compared to these folks.
Draxy
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Post by Stone on Nov 13, 2003 4:59:25 GMT -5
i like cave men .. whos gonna throw me ??  |
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Post by Draxy on Nov 13, 2003 5:43:27 GMT -5
i like cave men .. whos gonna throw me ?? *lol* *snort* *chuckle* and again *lol* |
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Post by Slag on Nov 13, 2003 9:28:45 GMT -5
I think they'd create alternate personas with super-human abilities and special powers and play them in various scenarios. They'd throw some rocks or bones to determine what happened to their characters...  |
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Post by Sharess on Nov 13, 2003 18:39:59 GMT -5
Ok if the cavemen did what guys do on camping tripsthen what did they ues to heal the burns from recataly helping the fire ie; farting on the fire? I don't know about any of you guys but I beento a "guys" camp out and it was very entertaining.
And how many people did it take to go hunting? It could not have been the whole tribe or clan or what ever
And how about this how actrueet is the book "Clan of the Cave Bear"?
Sorry guys but these are just a few of the weird thing I ask my self time from time.
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Post by Iron Bonny Shades on Nov 14, 2003 1:19:50 GMT -5
define "caveman" Do you mean H. Habilis, H. erectus, Neanderthal or cro magnon. or do you mean fred and barney   |
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Nov 14, 2003 1:42:54 GMT -5
I think they'd create alternate personas with super-human abilities and special powers and play them in various scenarios. They'd throw some rocks or bones to determine what happened to their characters...
And would they call this game, "Tar Pits and Predators". |
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