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Post by Merkuri on Jan 27, 2004 14:37:01 GMT -5
I like to keep an open mind. When I was going out with my Republican ex I swayed very far towards the conservative end, but towards the end of my relationship with him I swayed back to liberal and have been there ever since. I want you to convince me. Support your arguments with facts. I've been trying to support mine with facts (at least I did with the deficit argument).
I don't know about Dean lying but it doesn't surprise me. It doesn't make all Democrats evil, either. Politicians are known for lying. Republicans do it, too. Give me a couple days and I could find some examples for you if you want.
You still haven't explained to me why going to Mars is a better use of cash than feeding people. If you look at thing in "how are we going to pay for this," then how are we going to pay for Mars? Or a base on the moon for that matter?
And even if Clinton's deficit drop was temporary, look at that graph again. I can plug more numbers into my excel spreadsheet but that was a pain, so I'll just point to somebody who's already done it. If Clinton was an abnormality, why does the deficit almost always go up when a Republican is in the White House and almost always goes down when there is a Democrat there? Did they all get short-term bonds?
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Post by Galadon on Jan 27, 2004 15:48:19 GMT -5
, Oh damn, nows she going to make me do homework. I'll say this for now other stuff for later. Republicans are not all saints. But what I hear form most people is the Demorats are going to save the world, Not true in the least.
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Post by Merkuri on Jan 27, 2004 15:53:20 GMT -5
Once again, I agree. Like I told you in a PM before, I think it's important that we have two parties and not just one. Like a neutral good (or neutral evil, whatever) druid, I believe in the balance even though I've picked a side.
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Post by Hussar on Jan 27, 2004 21:51:14 GMT -5
Now that is the truth. Moderation is almost always the correct path. Not too much one way or another. The problem that I see is that whenever a Democrat gets into power, the Republics will witch hunt him out of office whereas the Democrats are too disorganized to really go after a Republican leader.
Think about it. Do you really care if the president got some extra curricular nookie? Is it really that important that several hundred million dollars needs to be spent on an investigation that lasts for almost two years and pretty much paralyzes the government? And, if it is that important, why is Bush flat out lying about WMD's not an issue? The Brits are investigating Blair, why is there no investigation of Bush? I'll tell you why. Because the Dems simply don't have the intestinal fortitude to roast the president.
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Post by Galadon on Feb 2, 2004 16:19:36 GMT -5
I wonder how many people turned to CNN to watch the anti-Bush ads,,,, not to many I would guess.
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Post by Merkuri on Feb 2, 2004 16:35:28 GMT -5
Probably not many, at least not nearly as many as the people who were watching the half-time show. I would've, but we don't get CNN at my house. (My parents are cheap when it comes to cable, but hey, who am I to complain since they don't charge me for watching it. )
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