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Nov 2, 2004 17:06:02 GMT -5
Post by Challenger on Nov 2, 2004 17:06:02 GMT -5
In our dreams Challenger
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Jan 30, 2005 18:09:56 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Jan 30, 2005 18:09:56 GMT -5
probly but i think they both evil so i dont care not like im old enough to vote anyways lol Almost as evil as gay couples!! Yeah im TOTALLY against gay marrage!!!!
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Jan 30, 2005 18:11:10 GMT -5
Post by Galadon on Jan 30, 2005 18:11:10 GMT -5
Care to expand on that statement.
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Jan 30, 2005 18:20:27 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Jan 30, 2005 18:20:27 GMT -5
Simple, its not natural. 2 women or 2 men ALONE cannot concieve a child!
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Jan 30, 2005 18:51:50 GMT -5
Post by Galadon on Jan 30, 2005 18:51:50 GMT -5
Whoa,,,, careful now your using logic, Liberal can't stand the sight of logic. it's like blood.
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Jan 30, 2005 18:53:43 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Jan 30, 2005 18:53:43 GMT -5
Well, remembermy "saying": Sorry, I speak only FREEDOM, meaning the TRUTH!!!
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Jan 30, 2005 23:45:05 GMT -5
Post by Hussar on Jan 30, 2005 23:45:05 GMT -5
So, using your logic, impotent men and barren women cannot marry as well. Nor can anyone who decides not to have children.
Sorry, the logic there is faulty.
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Jan 31, 2005 10:29:01 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Jan 31, 2005 10:29:01 GMT -5
So, using your logic, impotent men and barren women cannot marry as well. Nor can anyone who decides not to have children. Sorry, the logic there is faulty. Neg YOURS is Hussar!! Your talkng about A sterile man and a barren woman. I was talking about a couple of the SAME SEX!! So your point is pointless and totally wrong!
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Feb 1, 2005 0:28:51 GMT -5
Post by Hussar on Feb 1, 2005 0:28:51 GMT -5
You are stating that the only purpose of marriage is to have children.
In your own words:
So, by using your logic, sterile men or women should also not be allowed to marry. Since neither sterile men nor women could conceive on their own, they, by your own logic, should not be allowed to marry.
Just on another note, I'm at best agnostic and usually athiest. My wife is Shinto Buddhist. Should we be allowed to legally marry?
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Feb 1, 2005 9:07:21 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Feb 1, 2005 9:07:21 GMT -5
Your TOTALLY missing my point Hussar. I Only refered to couples of the SAME sex. Dont try to get an aurgument out were thier is none.
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Feb 1, 2005 9:54:39 GMT -5
Post by Galadon on Feb 1, 2005 9:54:39 GMT -5
Were not talking about one or two people who can have kids. In order for the human race to continue you need male and female. No way to get around this.
Sperm and an egg.
The real reason behind same sex marriage is money, (follow the money) In this country marriage is between a man and a woman. In the last election the people state that this will not change. The same sex marraige was brought up in 11 states. 11 states said no.
A small percent of the population is not going to rewrite laws just to suit them.
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Feb 1, 2005 12:02:16 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Feb 1, 2005 12:02:16 GMT -5
Were not talking about one or two people who can have kids. In order for the human race to continue you need male and female. No way to get around this. Sperm and an egg. The real reason behind same sex marriage is money, (follow the money) In this country marriage is between a man and a woman. In the last election the people state that this will not change. The same sex marraige was brought up in 11 states. 11 states said no. A small percent of the population is not going to rewrite laws just to suit them. Have to agree with you on that one Galaden, Michigan was one of the 11, thank GOD!!!
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Feb 2, 2005 0:25:26 GMT -5
Post by Hussar on Feb 2, 2005 0:25:26 GMT -5
Yup, just like blacks and every other minority.
You didn't answer my question. If the purpose of marriage is to continue the people, then should sterile men and women be allowed to marry?
The ONLY justification for that is if you think that marriage is a religious institution. Unfortunately, since the Christian church allows non-Christians, including athiests, to marry, marriage ceased to be a Christian institution several hundred years ago. The state ALLOWS churches to perform marriages, not the other way around. Your marriage license comes from the government, not anyone else.
Now, is your government allowed to make laws that exclude groups of people? ie, the law only applies to these people and not those people.
Is your government allowed to make laws which are solely based on religion?
The only reason for barring gay marriage is bigotry.
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Feb 2, 2005 15:25:48 GMT -5
Post by ElrosTarMinitarsus on Feb 2, 2005 15:25:48 GMT -5
The only reason for barring gay marriage is bigotry. I may be Christian, but Ill bet ANY money that ALMOST ALL the religions in this world denounce gay marriges. Does that mean that all of us are bigots because follow our religious teachings. What is your religion? And what is its views on gays in general??
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Feb 2, 2005 15:56:03 GMT -5
Post by Galadon on Feb 2, 2005 15:56:03 GMT -5
So if the majority of people in a country doesn't want homosexual marriage, then they must be bigots.
Is that your point Hussar?
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