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Post by GIR on Oct 13, 2003 2:40:45 GMT -5
i have read all of the Ender books, and off shots of them. they are the best read i think. its a sci fi world but a lot of human stuff. try it. but dont read Edners Shadow before Enders game it runes the book
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Post by Hussar on Oct 21, 2003 0:52:30 GMT -5
I'm actually in the middle of rereading the Ender saga. It really is a good read. Not a lot of science mind you, but a good read nonetheless.
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Post by GIR on Oct 22, 2003 1:33:07 GMT -5
what ones have you read so far??
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Post by Hussar on Nov 5, 2003 2:44:02 GMT -5
I'm just polishing off Children of the Mind, and I have to say, I am NOT impressed. His style is childish and the editing is crap.
For example, near the beginning of Children of the Mind, Milo is thinking about how he has just gotten his new body back. It mentions that he spent years as a cripple. That is completely false. He was only crippled at the end of the second book and they bundled him onto the ship to meet with Valentine. He returns after two weeks and the whole of the second book takes less than 40 weeks because that is the time limit they give before Jane will be disconnected. So, this is completely wrong. Very bad editting there.
The story is interesting, I'll give it that, but it is hardly science fiction. Very long on fiction, very short on science. What science he does have is absolutely bogus. And, his views of other cultures are superficial at the very best and caricature at worst. The Chinese and Japanese cultures he presents are brutally superficial to the point of stereotype. He really should have stopped after Ender's War. The subsequent books really do not have the impact or the skill of his first.
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Post by Merkuri on Nov 26, 2003 22:01:12 GMT -5
I read Ender's Game and then two more in the series (I think). I have the last book, but haven't started it yet. To be honest, I have no real desire to read it. I might, though, just to say I've read it. I liked Ender's Game a lot better. Hussar, I recommend you read Ender's Shadow, even if you didn't like Children of the Mind. Ender's Shadow goes back to the time period of Ender's Game and tells the story again from Bean's point of view. Card claims that you could read either book first, but like GIR said you should really read ..Game before ..Shadow. Bean figures things out earlier and it ruins some surprises. Some of it's new, but some of it's not, though what isn't new is told from a different vantage point so you get a fresh look at things. I liked it, but I also read Ender's Game twice in a row (I liked it so much and read it so fast--about two days--that I read it again). If you're not the sort of person who can read a book twice, you might not like ..Shadow since it's so much like ..Game. I'm not that type of person, though, so I don't know.
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Post by Kaffekat on Dec 28, 2003 0:28:44 GMT -5
I enjoyed Card's 'Ender series'...
Vastly better than that series though (esp for a DnD player) is the same authors, Orson Scott Cards 'Tales of Alvin Maker' series.... Set in an alternate past America, a world where magic does work - they are brilliant clever 'historical' folk tales - it is easy to imagine that the history portrayed therein is true. They are highly believable, imaginative, and I wish they were true!!! They are a great series of books.
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Post by khyron1144 on Jan 6, 2004 18:43:58 GMT -5
I read all the Orson Scott Card I can get my hands on. I've read all the main Ender books, and the Shadow series of sequels. I think Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, and Shadow Puppets are worthier sucessors to Ender's Game. I hope there's a new entry in the series at some point.
I also like the Alvin Maker series and another one called the Homecoming series.
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