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Post by ShonenSenshiDave on Oct 30, 2003 16:39:26 GMT -5
Well, folks, they're both out now. The Book of Vile Darkness (for some time), and now the Book of Exalted Deeds. Anyone else own 'em? Use 'em? Hate 'em? What do you think?
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Post by Erebus on Nov 1, 2003 14:47:16 GMT -5
Although I own neither, I was interested to see that Exalted Deeds has also been marked as 'mature content', as well as it's evil counterpart.
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Post by ShonenSenshiDave on Nov 2, 2003 8:24:35 GMT -5
Well, I'm about 3/4 o the way through the BoED, and about the only thing I see as remotely close to "mature audience" material is the discussion on Chastity and Abstinance. It's not like the BoVD where there are in-depth discussions about S/m, torture, etc.
On a side note, it appears that the BoED it designed for 3.5, while the BoVD is designed for 3.0. Be interesting to see if there are either online or DM conversions where needed...
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Post by Erebus on Nov 2, 2003 9:04:11 GMT -5
So how useful are you finding it - particularly in terms of:
Developing new approaches to old issues
Inspiring new stories/scenes
Inspiring new elements of roleplay
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Post by ShonenSenshiDave on Nov 2, 2003 16:40:44 GMT -5
Well, I have taken several ideas from the BoVD to incorporate into a game. Thematically, it's given me some great ways to flesh out certain story hooks, and some very evil ideas for things to do to PCs. They're not bad books if you have the extra money, IMHO. Not sure how I'll incorporate the BoED into my campaign, but I have some ideas and some time to flesh them out, I'll keep you posted and let you know how it all plays out if you want.
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Post by Erebus on Nov 3, 2003 9:45:03 GMT -5
Yes I would be interested. It strikes me the extra value these volumes can offer is likely in the fleshing out of concepts etc - I'd be interested to hear what you come up with...
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Post by ShonenSenshiDave on Nov 3, 2003 14:26:42 GMT -5
well, so far I have a game that I've tested online...
The game is based around the goddess Scahrossar, the Mistress of Exquisite Pain. She is a minor deity, Oldimarra's sister. Her symbol is a whip, and many of her followers are pure sadists. I've created a world with a slave trade which uses much of what the BoVD has to offer.
I do plan on incorporating this story into the OA tabletop game I'm running. It's basically a S/m community with a very dark underside dealing with human sacrifice, torture, drugs, etc. It's been a good idea to use, and I look forward to seeing my characters deal with it. It's political enough that it would fit into an OA campaign, and if I want to get truely evil I can set the bad guys up in the Shadowlands.
I may have to use one of the new minor deities introduced in the BoED who is basically a good goddess with a similar sphere of influence as Scahrossar. The main problem is this: I can bring in slave traders from the West for my OA campaign (which is what I run tabletop), just not 100% sure how to get the good goddess in since she's western. I may have to turn her into a spirit or give her an OA name and do the conversions. Or just not worry about it, haven't decided.
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Post by Nikolai Plogojowitz on Jul 30, 2004 15:47:11 GMT -5
Love the BoVD and anything else even remotly evil (besides the teletubbies)
Many of my characters have been hooked on Devilweed, (hmm...i wonder what they derived that drug and its name from...) not becuase it had a positive effect on them, just because I thought it characterful for a chaotic neutral barb to occasionally indulge himself...after all, he was chaotic...may that ancient drake die of disentery
the torture and sacrifice thing is cool too.
BoVD was marked with mature content because of the occassional strange Lamia looking demon not weaing a shirt.
Love the 9 Devils. They are awesome. I am working on an evil based (yay) adventure where the PCs work for one of the Devils ( it will end up being Fierna, Dispater, Asmodeus, or Mephisopheles)
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