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Apr 29, 2004 20:09:06 GMT -5
Post by khyron1144 on Apr 29, 2004 20:09:06 GMT -5
Is this ` an apostrophe ' or is this? and which one is a single quote? Are you supposed to underline book titles, album names, movie titles, names of magazines, and names of boats, or are you supposed to italicize them? All through high school, which was only four years ago for my senior year, I was told to underline, but I've been reading recently, mainly in books on how to create your own zine or on writing college papers, that one should italicize. If anyone has any answers or strong opinions I would appreciate it. Also please post your own questions. Taken from my own forums, which are basically dying.
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Apr 30, 2004 0:41:05 GMT -5
Post by EK - Shadow of Death on Apr 30, 2004 0:41:05 GMT -5
As far as I know, ' is an apostrophe. ` is an accent mark.
Underlining the names of long works is the same as italicizing them. Some people prefer italicization because it doesn't draw attention to the title's name as much as underlining does.
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Apr 30, 2004 6:59:32 GMT -5
Post by Merkuri on Apr 30, 2004 6:59:32 GMT -5
The way I heard it, underlining and italicizing are basically the same thing. Underlining used to be preferred simply because it was easier to print/type/write. Now that computers can format and print italics easier it's become the preferred format.
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Apr 30, 2004 13:40:18 GMT -5
Post by khyron1144 on Apr 30, 2004 13:40:18 GMT -5
Underlining used to be preferred simply because it was easier to print/type/write. Now that computers can format and print italics easier it's become the preferred format. That makes sense I guess, although I thought it was the other way around in reverse.
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Apr 30, 2004 13:44:23 GMT -5
Post by Merkuri on Apr 30, 2004 13:44:23 GMT -5
I was basing that off of vague memories from middle school of old computers/printers (forgot if it was the fault of the computer or the printer) that couldn't handle italics. Underlining was no problem, therefore we underlined things. I could be wrong, that was just my experience.
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Apr 30, 2004 20:33:37 GMT -5
Post by Hussar on Apr 30, 2004 20:33:37 GMT -5
Actually, when writing academic papers, all titles are placed within quotes. When quoting from a work, the source is cited within brackets with work followed by page without quotes or underlining. For example "A longsword does 1d8 damage" (Players Handbook, 175). I suggest this site for more information. webster.commnet.edu/mla/index.shtml
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Apr 30, 2004 23:03:07 GMT -5
Post by EK - Shadow of Death on Apr 30, 2004 23:03:07 GMT -5
Well, that's parenthetical notation used in citing. If you're directly inserting a title into your essay, you use underline or italicization
Ex. According to Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition, Player's Handbook, a longsword does 1d8 damage.
The above could be done with italics to the same effect. Parenthetical notation (as Hussar described) can be used instead of this, but requires a reference to a full and proper bibliography at the end of the paper.
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Post by Hussar on May 1, 2004 1:21:07 GMT -5
Heh, it's been a long time since I've written anything else. BTW, it's not a bibliography anymore. It's called a "Works Cited". I can't remember what the difference is. Now, granted this may have changed, IIRC, you give a full citation the first time you quote from a work and then can simply abbreviate the citation thereafter. For example, the first citation would be (Players Handbook, 3rd edition. 177) The second time you cited the same work, you could simply say (PHB, 177) Note, I know I have the punctuation wrong in those citations. It's been way too long since I've done that. For English or other Arts papers, get a copy of the MLA handbook and use that as your bible. Other disciplines require other standards that are all slightly different. I'm not sure what standards the science guys use. Arts use MLA as do History, Poli Sci, and well, anything else that teaches you how to be unemployed.
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Post by khyron1144 on May 2, 2004 1:11:31 GMT -5
What if you just want to be anal about grammatical details when posting someplace like this?
Any particular book that should be your style Bible?
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Post by Hussar on May 2, 2004 6:15:14 GMT -5
Meh, online sites like this don't really matter. The only grade you get is a sort of peer review of the people who read what you write. So long as what you write is legible and understandable, then there really isn't any problem. No one is going to grade you on this stuff. Heh.
Propper speeling n grammer or onlee improtant wehn there are graeds at steak.
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May 2, 2004 22:47:28 GMT -5
Post by EK - Shadow of Death on May 2, 2004 22:47:28 GMT -5
Yea - forgot about that little "bibliography"/"works cited" myself. The deal is that a bibliography only contains references to books, but as Internet and electronic sources became more prevalent, the MLA decided to call it a works cited instead.
I agree with Hussar about the style issue, but if you HAVE to have a style guide, the MLA (modern language association) has references on their site.
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Post by Hussar on May 3, 2004 2:34:03 GMT -5
Just as I was graduating High School, they were beginning to insist on MLA format in high school essays. Because computers are so prevalent, everything has to be typed now, so they're starting to enforce MLA earlier and earlier.
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