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Post by Blade on Mar 11, 2004 18:59:43 GMT -5
I'll put more stuff about Avana lata, but a question to Gemstone.. how can yer be a bladesinger when yer not an elf?
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Post by Gemstone on Mar 12, 2004 2:41:44 GMT -5
Detailed explaination:
Gemini's mother is the Crown Royal, Imperial Empress of the Sylvan Elves of Mallious,... The world on which Gemini Syun Stone was born... (the "y" in "Syun" in silent... It is pronounced "Sun")
It is the custom, tradition, birthright, and legacy that ALL Imperial elves be taught Bladesong...
On Mallious, the Sylvan Elves have united with humanity against a common threat of masses of highly intelligent orcs called "The Hoard"... Which currently number around 3,000,000...
Gem's mother is Lady Shayanna Bluerain, the Crown Royal, Imperial Emperess of the Sylvan Elves... Gem's father is Lord Obsidian Stone, the Crown Royal, Imperial Emperor of the High Humans... They wed specificly in-order to test the feasibility of produceing hybred off-spring,... Not being either, but superior to both... Gem was born.
Gem was taught Bladesong from the moment she could hold a blade in her hand. Gem, possessing a photographic memory, was able to learn everything while still very young. By the age of 14, Gem had learned a variation of Bladesong called Dualblade, and was able to take on, toe-to-toe, most regular bladesingers.
Gem ran away from home at 16... at age 19 Gem found herself traveling through the planescape realm to other worlds and planes of existence, where she acted as a bounty hunter and mercenary...
(made up to fit GoT campaign) At the Age of 21, Gem met "The Master"... A Master of a thieves guild who offered to take the young girl under his wing... When he learned of her skills, he knew that she would make the perfect apprintice and protégé to learn all of his skills at stealth... Gem trained with him, and learned everything about hideing in shadows, and moving silently from every source that she could.
For 4 years Gem showed the utmost loyalty to him... untill the age of 25, when she asked "The Master", politely, if she could leave the guild... Supprised with her request, but still understanding her desire to see the Omniverse, and experience new things, he replied:
"No... You may not leave the guild... No-one ever leaves the guild... But,... However, My young protégé, you may have a leave from being my apprintice, and the guild for a time... Under these conditions... ... ... One,... You will always remain loyal to me, and the guild... Two,... If ever I need you, If I send for you, you'll come forthwith back to me, and serve whatever need I may have of you... Three,... After 20 years, you will return to me, and the Guild, and you will never ask to leave the guild again........ Agreed?."
Gemini agreed to his conditions.
Now she has been called back to him, in-order to help retrieve "the eye".
Hope this helps to explain some of who Gem is, and why she is there.
Gemstone.
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Mar 12, 2004 2:46:39 GMT -5
Hello, I'm LWW....the DM of this game, in case some of you didn't know that fact. I am the one who is giving directions to the party members, and this is NOT to be done by anyone else.
I have deleted some posts that contained directions to other party members, and responses to same.....I do NOT need anyone taking my instructions and delivering them for me.
Also, I'm NOT impressed by long winded posts telling me, or others how wonderful you may be....I really don't give two hoots. Stick to the story line, reply appropriately to everyone's posts, and get characters into more reasonable statistics. Too busy showing off your knowledge of DnD, then you shouldn't be in freeform.....this is for relaxed gaming.
Get it...Got it...Good!
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Post by Gemstone on Mar 12, 2004 3:34:43 GMT -5
I have no clue what the HE*L has happened here... appearently no-one has read anything that I have posted...
I am very meticulous for details... and have been RPing for 15 YEARS... I am one who goes with what is given... and while this is only the second on-line play-by-post game that I have ever played,... Since I joined it, I have seen a VERY poor RPing by some others... people appearently aren't reading the posts prior to the new ones that they make... and I'm getting the blame for being to longwinded, or taking direction to others, because I try to explain what is going on, and to be helpfull.
My character has been very nice, kind, polite, and complementary since she showed up... But in return, I have only recieved anger, bitterness, agression, jealousy, and arguementativness back...
(To LWW: I thought we had Gem's past worked out... what happened?)...
My character, who I thought was supposed to know Iggy, tried to make amends with him and Avana (through RPing)... and I get into big trouble over it... OK... it wasn't really my place to try to help them,... but it opened a RPing oppertunity that I thought was good for the team, and Avana asked for it.
I was under the impression that "Freeform Role Playing" was actually supposed to involve "Role Playing" of some kind???
Don't worrie, I won't try to help out anymore... I'll just stick to myself, and follow orders as they are given.
I made many changes just to get my character into this campaign, .......... And on another topic, while my posts are long with descriptions and actions,... my character has only spoke verbaly less than two paragraphs worth of words since she showed up...
I've tried being nice... I've tried being kind... I've tried giveing complements... BUT NOTHING WORKS!!!
If you guys don't want me here so badly, just tell me so... I can take a hint.... I'll drop out for you.... All you have to do, is say so.
If not, then PLEASE tell me what YOU want of me, that will make YOU happy... I am very adaptable....
Gemstone.
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Mar 12, 2004 5:55:08 GMT -5
Gem,
I wouldn't want you to leave the campaign, I don't like when people leave, however, just because you are meticulous with your posts, please don't expect it of everyone else.
Sometimes I do have problems with people not reading previous posts, and then having to direct them back on track, but that is my job as dm to do this. If a post makes no sense to others, they move along with the story line and ignore it......the poster making the incorrect post is encouraged to change the post by me.
Yes, we worked out your character, but in your posts, your character keeps coming across as more wonderful than all the other players......for this group to work together, no one character is more important than another....each person has a place in this rp, and the interaction between all is important as well. By coming across as high and mighty.....you're just alienating yourself.
Not everyone is well versed in 2e, it's a learning experience for many, including me, but being led by the nose, especially when not necessary tends to get annoying......and basically I see just repetition of directions I have given which is not necessary. Play your character, but is she really someone that just acts like a parrot and repeats instructions she hears from the person in charge?
Role play with interaction, not by giving directions.
I'm not trying to upset anyone, I want us all to get along, but this is the best way I can to put forward what I have to say.
If anyone else can explain better what I'm trying to say, please do.....but no one should feel the need to leave.
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Post by OmniWyvernil on Mar 12, 2004 5:58:13 GMT -5
Just trying to clear up a few things here. Thought it might help to outline some of Iggy's history with the guild. I hope nothing I posted to the story thread wasn't wrong. Likewise, I hope we all get everything cleared up here.
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Mar 13, 2004 1:34:18 GMT -5
Iggy is just fine, so no worries there Omni. Just a slight misunderstanding on the role a character should not be playing.
In case no one read Crista's bio, and doesn't know about the two GoT threads we did on Planet, she is the Guildmaster's right hand......all others are beneath her in rank, so therefore answer to her. That might clear some misconceptions up....but again, Crista will give directions, and it is very unnecessary for anyone else to go around telling the other party members what to do.
Now lets get back to the main GoT thread and continue our way to the ruins. Thanks all.
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Post by Gemstone on Mar 13, 2004 3:14:52 GMT -5
... ... ... Ok... I was a little miffed when I made my last post...
I've had time to chill out and think things through, from all prespectives...
To clearify for everyone, so that I am not misunderstood:
1. It has come to my attention,... from a number of sources,... that my character is somehow comming across as being "haughty", "arrogant", "high-and-mighty", and "superior" to everyone else...
It is not my intentions that my character be perceived this way... Two times now, I have even down-played my character's mystical abilities in favor of Avana's superior capabilities at "the Craft"... My intentions were to be cordial, and polite towards everyone...
As far as interacting with the others goes,... Everytime I try to interact with the others, they seem to get hostile, call me longwinded or say that I talk to much...
I am very sorry if it seems that I am trying to be better than everyone else... But, I am not trying to do so... I know my character very well, as I have been playing the same one for over 12 years... Making changes as needed to suit different campaigns. I know Gemstone inside and out, and know what she is capable of. I play to her strengths, not her weaknesses, which may be the reason that everyone seems to think that I am being arrogant... But I am not trying to be as such.
2. (mostly to LWW) My intentions were again misunderstood... It was my understanding that my character was supposed to know Crista, Iggy, and Avana personally... Therefor, Since Gem knew that Avana and Iggy have had problems, and that Avana is on the verge of trying to slit his throat at night... Avana is angry with him, and on the verge of trying to kill him for his blunder... Gem was watching the group from the shadows since before Avana arrived at the camp, so she saw what happened...
When Avana suggested that Iggy teach her the spells in the BS thread, and then Crista ordered them together in the marching order in the real thread,... I thought of the perfact way to get Iggy to think about teaching Avana some of his spells...
Gem told him how good Avana was with "the Craft", and asked Iggy if he thought that it would be a good idea to have more fire casters in the group...
Gem diddn't tell Iggy that he had to teach Avana, she suggested that it would be a good idea... I shouldn't have done that. It wasn't my place... I'm sorry.
At this point, Avana is still PISSED at Ignitius, and is ready to kill him (strictly from what Avana herself has posted), Just a short time ago, in game time, she told Garth "Avana speaks softly in a rather disturbing voice,... Death is my speciality Garth.. we must ensure that it is suitably poetic." Speaking directly to Garth about Ignitius...
Crista ordering them to march together at this point, eventhough she said for them to make nice, is kinda like saying "Avana, go and kill Iggy."... So I thought that it would be a good idea to try to difuse the situation, and give them both what they want... I RPed the situation, and thought that I was doing a good thing, and helping the team...
Ok... It wasn't my place to try to help the team like that... I shouldn't have tried... I am sorry about that, and will try not to let anything like that happen again.
I am sorry for the misunderstandings, and I'll try to be clearer from now on.
Gemstone.
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Post by Blade on Mar 13, 2004 8:04:07 GMT -5
Okay I think its about time I explained my own actions, and as requested by a number of PMs, do this using correct language.
Okay; for the record - Avana's history. Note she only fell in with the guild after she had forged her own identity.
(Direct copy of the history LWW and I agreed) She's a traveller who likes style in what she does. She learned the hard way that the best way to make life an experience and not so dull was to learn a bit of everything - but with style. Her twin swords are her most precious items to her - her techniques she has become so proud of (which replace bardic music and so forth in her kit) have made her what she is today...she stylises herself as the "mistress of blades". Yet forever in search of a gp or twenty she fell in with the guild. Her arcane talents, though not a forefront to who she is, she uses to aid her in stealth and disguise. Despite her skills and talent in the area, she has never become a pure assassin, somewhat suprising given her nature. Perhaps there is something redemable in her after all.. or perhaps not...
As for her current actions/attitudes:
Iggy: Yes, she's pissed at the mage for endangering them all when she had a shot at sorting things out the diplomatic way, and furthermore at his recklessness. But, as I have already explained, her name translates to "Fury", something I picked to reflect her rather nasty temper at times. Yet, as a bard, she is trained to hide it when she needs to, and to take advantage of whatever situation is presented. Thats why, OOC I suggested Iggy have an idea when she revealed she could cast spells. (Something I deliberately did to get a reaction out of the folks she had't met before). There are numerous other ways around Avanas temper too, especially remembering her, Iggy and Juju's fluency in draconic.
Gemstone: I'm gonna be honest: no offense m'dear.. but your character is a munchkin. I dont particularly care how you choose to justify it, but a character with no stat below 16 and the use of 2.5 to generate stuff, amongst numerous other things I could point out, means that you are going to be blatantly more powerful than anyone else. But it is the DMs choice, which I respect, to oversee your character, so I thought about how to react to this in character.
If Avana had known Gem before this started, she would know of her "almost unnatural" skill, and would have been blatantly overshadowed by it in Avanas brief stint of training with the guild. Remember, Avana is an elf, to her, her time spent with the guild in training passed in the blink of an eye. Despite anything Gem actually says, a bard's ego is not easily comforted by the one whos gifts they are shadowed by... though she is a blade, and her swords are her voice, she still maintains a few of the traditonal character traits, hence, her current attitude.
I think thats about it.
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Post by Iron Bonny Shades on Mar 13, 2004 19:18:32 GMT -5
I suppose I better reply as well.
Keely, despite being feminine, is still a dwarf and hold grudges, and gemini's attitude WILL rub keely the wrong way.
Pretentious twits (as far as Keely's concerned) who think they know it all, will get on Keely's nerves to put it mildly, and she sure as heck won't take orders from them.
If you threaten Keely, then you do realize you better sleep with one eye open. The old girl is a master trapmaker and a crack shot.
The only reason she hasn't offed your character is cause the guildmaster must to have saw something good in ya, and you haven't threatened her.
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Post by Gemstone on Mar 14, 2004 3:19:45 GMT -5
You see... This is what I don't understand... I am a Role Player... I deturmine "how I feel" about other characters by interacting with them, not by reading their character sheets... I only read the character sheet to see what they are and are not capable of... I don't just read a character sheet and say, "Well, that character must be a munchkin... this is how I am going to treat them when we play together."... I interact with them, and see how they play, then treat them accordingly... In reguards to Keely... ......... Huh?... Keely is "Rubbed the wrong way" by someone being polite to her???... I completely don't get this, it makes no sense what-so-ever... Are you RPing some kind of plan that we aren't in on... Has Keely been struck dumb with a curse, and hasn't told anyone?... Has she began to loose her hearing?... Are you trying to RP that Keely actually misunderstood Gem?... Or is it possible that you actually misunderstood what I posted... There has been some kind of misunderstanding about Gem's interaction with Keely here... To go over what happened: Keely suggested that Gem prove her worth by going first... Gem explained to Keely that her artifice is at stealth, and that if Keely meant for Gem to recon the area ahead of the group, then she would ask Crista about it,... but that if she meant for Gem to take point, then Gem would have to decline the offer because it would be a complete waste of Gem's skills... She then told Keely that Avana's skills with both the blades and magic made Avana a better choice for taking point... Gem has been VERY polite and kind... So I don't understand your anger and aggression towards Gem... It makes no sense at all... unless you are playing at something that you aren't letting us in on, or if you simply diddn't completely read what I posted, or if you misunderstood what I posted........ What happened? Gemstone.
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Post by Blade on Mar 14, 2004 7:57:59 GMT -5
I was basing Avana's action on her previous experience of Gem, which I based on her character sheet as I had little else to go on. You were the one who insisted we trained together, I merely accomodated that by getting to know her with what I did have to go on. People don't always get along in RL, neither do they in DnD, still doesn't mean they aren't on the same side. Quite frankly it would be boring if it were. Dont assume you can make everyone like you by being polite, when a history has already passed between them. Oh, and in character.. you told the party to put Avana on point after she'd been heavily injured, pretty much a death warrent.
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Post by Gemstone on Mar 14, 2004 16:17:45 GMT -5
Avana, LWW told me that you and Garth were completely healed, and that everyone in the group is fine right now... That is why I suggested that you go first... *IF* you are healed, like I was told, then your character would be one of the best choices for taking point... *if* your character isn't healed, and I was misinformed, then my character would have NEVER suggested that you, being injured, should go first...
There has been a misunderstanding here as well...
On top of that, As far as I was concerned, I was trying to RP that we were friends, not rivals... Hence my initial greeting to you: "Greetings, my friend... It has been too long since we last met... It is good to see you again."...
We are all supposed to be comrades, and all of our skills are supposed to be about even... My character has stealth, and yours has magic... and while it is true that my character's abilities at stealth are out of the "normal" range, that is only because the only two rogue abilities that I have put points towards are Hide in Shadow and Move Silently, that is why they are so high...
The only magic that my character has, is the 6 spells that any being of elven heritage can cast... your character, on the other hand, has alot of spells, both usefull and powerfull ones...
Perhaps my character should be jelous of yours???
As I said, there has been a misunderstanding...
Gemstone.
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Post by Blade on Mar 14, 2004 17:39:10 GMT -5
Re Healing: I was under the impression, and have been RPing, Avana still having injuries.. Garth the same I think, simply that wounds do not so quickly fade without magicks, even with Alyssa's skill to aid in their removal.
Re History: Your character believes there is no bad blood between her and Avana; its highly likely as Avana is a bard, and hides her own emotions such as this (hence why all her reactions have been in monologues). The thing is, as I have already said, I as a person see your character as vastly more powerful than all of the rest of us, and Avana, as a good judge of character, believes similarly; looking at this more closely from her perspective think on just a few things:
You are a half-elf with bladesong, not only that, but dual bladesong, the thing she has strived for, but I OOC thought far too munchkinny to exist, and as it is part of a compltely sperate kit, inappropriate for anyone but a member of that class. Combined with your inherent ability to fight (IMHO obscenely high stats) and intensive training (expertise/specialisation which as the rest of us used 2.0 to generate was fighters only) means that though you do so in a less stylish way, you clearly outclass the blade.
Sure, Avana's magics pretty much equate to your stealth, theres other things which eclipse her too. Despite having not the training she has, you have abilities in the arts, granted they are much more limited, but along with numerous other things you have gained from your mixed heritage such as animal empathy , NONE of which Avana has inherited from her pure blood.
I made Avana's first reaction to your presence (before you actually spoke) based on this, and have maintained consistancy.
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Post by Exile, Bast Incarnate on Mar 15, 2004 1:12:09 GMT -5
I hate to interject here, but could we just drop it? I mean Gem said she was sorry and everyone said what they had to say. If you read the last few posts since this argument started, you can tell it is really affecting the game in a bad way. I feel that there should be a line between RL and teh Rping game. I mean, either than waiting for Alyssa to respond, I have nothing to do, because you can feel the tension in the game that has come from this argument.
If a player is going to play his/her character a certain way, let them. There are many people out there in real life and in games. Unless they are killing off the PCs it shouldn't make much of a difference. Like Blade said it would be boring if everyone got along all the time.
Gem, no offense, but you do have a hint of huaghtiness in your posts. Its not your fault because I hear it here in the argument. You do it with no bad intentions behind it so it is okay. There are people out there like that.
COULD WE ALL JUST GET ALONG AND GET BACK TO THE GAME PLEASE!!!!!!!
<Tries to catch her breath, but has problem doing so.>
I'll be back in the other one waiting for everything to go back to normal. If it doesn't expect me to come back, but in my Tiger Hybrid form ready to attack.
<walks away mumbling about the little definition thingy under the words and how that it so uncalled for and rude.>
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