BASSsic
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Post by BASSsic on Nov 6, 2003 3:40:10 GMT -5
... Bush can order the bombing of 3rd world countries at will, but women that have been systematicly raped in war crimes now can't have an abortion? Discuss.
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Post by Wyrmfire on Nov 6, 2003 10:05:25 GMT -5
With all due respect, discussions on war or abortion are one thing, but this is really just a powder keg waiting to explode.
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BASSsic
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Post by BASSsic on Nov 6, 2003 14:55:08 GMT -5
I would just like to see if anyone here could actually justify this? Because from mine point of veiw no one could. I of course, would like to be told differently, as that is the point of debate.
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Post by Shura on Nov 6, 2003 15:26:45 GMT -5
It can be explained: life's not fair
Also, why can't the women have an abortion? Is it not legal where they live?
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Post by MrLemurBoy on Nov 7, 2003 15:20:44 GMT -5
I think that Bush just signed a new law saying that abortion is illegal except in the case that the mother's life is threatened. But I only caught a quick blurb on it. I could be wrong. Needless to say, if I'm right, this sucker'll probly end up in a courtroom really quickly.
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Post by Shura on Nov 7, 2003 17:29:25 GMT -5
hey BASSic, could you post more info on this?
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Post by Sharess on Nov 7, 2003 19:38:37 GMT -5
Lemru, Are you sure about that . I don't think that the president can do that. I hope that its not ture.
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Post by Hussar on Nov 7, 2003 20:39:07 GMT -5
One thing I do know is true, is that Bush has tied foreign aid to abortion and birth control. In a number of cases, countries can only receive AIDS aid if they promote abstinence and stop promoting condom use.
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Post by Draxy on Nov 8, 2003 6:25:40 GMT -5
Gods! The man is an imbecile! Do you have a link on that one Hussar?
Draxy
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Post by Hussar on Nov 8, 2003 8:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by Draxy on Nov 8, 2003 11:15:35 GMT -5
Thanks Hussar.
Bush is always able to continue to amaze me with his intellectual prowess. What a moron!
Sure, let's hold the club above their head AND promote the chance that AIDS can be spread even further.
Too, let's make sure we can ensure that there are more children BORN with the AIDS virus in them so that they can have a short and painful life with no real chance of survival to adulthood. Truely, you are an an example of GENIUS work Georgie!
Draxy
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Post by Shadowdragon on Nov 8, 2003 11:22:08 GMT -5
OK, from what I've heard Bush signed a law banning "partial birth abortions"
Whch is a truely good thing in my opinion.
Partial birth abortions can occur anytime the baby comes before it's due date. They inject it's brain as it is born, killing it.
IMHO that's just murder.
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Post by Shura on Nov 8, 2003 16:25:56 GMT -5
I've always been divided internally where abortion is concerned, as generalisations are dangerous, but I'd have to agree with you on that one, SD.
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Post by Draxy on Nov 8, 2003 18:07:00 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that Hussar and I aren't discussing the Partial Birth Abortion law that he just passed, but rather the limiting of foreign aide to fight AIDS to those institutions that do not use any of their own money to fund abortions... like the abortions of children that would be born HIV positive?
What does it give a child that will die in six to ten years irregardless, will live in great pain and social isolation because of it's condition and will die, most likely a lingering, wasting death, to be forced to be born?
Draxy
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Post by Hussar on Nov 9, 2003 2:27:43 GMT -5
As Draxy said, they are two very different issues. I'm referring to using foreign aid money to essentially blackmail another country into accepting a fundamentalist Christian ethic. A partial-birth abortion is a bad thing. Never mind that, but, even before Bush banned it, it had already been banned in 27 states www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/partial-birth%20abortion%20Ban%20act%20final%20language.htmHowever, one thing has nothing to do with the other. Bush is allowing a conservative Christian ethic to dictate foreign policy. We react with horror when Middle Eastern countries allow Islamic practices to control their country, yet we don't seem to care when we do the same thing. How is this not complete and total hypocricy?
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