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Post by Merkuri on Oct 29, 2003 16:45:55 GMT -5
You know Wyrm... I like the way you think.
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Post by Sharess on Oct 29, 2003 17:15:11 GMT -5
I'm very lucky I'm with a guy that is nothing but kind and sweet. He opens doors for me and other women and guys if their hands are full. He has pulled out my chair and and for both of our mothers as well (but he doesn't do it for me any more I took a pretty bad spill the last time and ended up with a concouishin) He always askes for my opion. When we take walks he always make sure that he is closest to the curb in case of crazy drivers. He pays for a lot of our nights out. He holds me a lot which is a big plus since I'm a cuddler. I mean don't get me wrong we have our fights and some times we say things that are mean..... OK I say things that are mean he ends up being the calm of the storm. He is one of the sweetest men I have known. So to all of the sweet guys and the guys who treat women and everybody eles with kindness its not that your not appearsated In my case I just had to have a guy beat the crap out of me before I saw that its the nice guy that is worth something that I'm worthy of them. So chivalry is not dead it just takes some of us girls a while to see thats what we want
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Post by Shura on Oct 29, 2003 17:34:34 GMT -5
I tend to be more polite and accomodating towards women then men, because experience has taught that I can go far by paying attention to the little things. I live by a personal code of honour, and am generally resentful to do things becuase they are expected of my age or position. If it's not cool or fashionable to be chivalrous, then it seems to be that in pratice it works, if in principle it may seen dated.
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Post by CharleHu$$tle on Oct 29, 2003 17:57:19 GMT -5
What are you doing in this thread, Chuck? You wouldn't know chivalry if he stuck his sword up your So what! Your Just jeaslous that I can PIMP all these Women and Not Have to Pay for the check
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Post by LadyWinterWolf on Oct 29, 2003 19:56:13 GMT -5
Merkuri
And I found out that it was all a facade, just a way to convince me that he was the perfect man for me, when all he wanted was a "punching bag", not just in the physical sense, but emotionally and mentally.
But I still refuse to judge all men by just this one man that I divorced....it wouldn't be fair, to them, or to myself.
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Post by Merkuri on Oct 29, 2003 19:56:57 GMT -5
You don't have to pay for the checks because all your ...uh, let's call them dates... all your dates wanna get out of there so bad they can't wait for you to find your wallet. And no more hyjacking's threads. I'm done.
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Post by Merkuri on Oct 29, 2003 20:02:23 GMT -5
But I still refuse to judge all men by just this one man that I divorced....it wouldn't be fair, to them, or to myself. Good for you! I thought I said so in my post, but I don't think all men are like that, that's just been my experience. Still looking for a guy that doesn't become all serious and dissaproving every time I slide into a side-stance, though.
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Post by Wyrmfire on Oct 29, 2003 23:33:32 GMT -5
Well, just to point out that I am, in fact, the exact opposite of your ex, my GF is going to vegas next summer to get her black belt...
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Post by Merkuri on Oct 30, 2003 9:19:26 GMT -5
They do exist! *faints*
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Post by Hussar on Oct 30, 2003 9:27:33 GMT -5
Y'know, there is a point though. Far too many times I've been on the short end of the stick. Not only am I expected to hold doors, pick up the check, play chauffeur, etc. but, I'm also expected to treat her as an equal in all ways. Now, you can have it one way or the other, not both. If you make more money than me, howzabout you picking up the check once in a while? While I don't mind opening doors, don't automatically expect me to do so and even go so far as to wait beside the car door for me to open it. If I come around to open your door, I'm being nice, if you prompt me to do it, then open your own bloody door. I don't mind carrying the heavy bags, cos, lets face it, I'm probably stronger than you, but would it hurt to show a little appreciation once in a while? Just because I am a gentleman (at least I try), don't think that you can get everything you want. If things are going to be equal, let them be equal.
(Note, I am using you as an address to some fictional female, not any one person in particular.)
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Post by Merkuri on Oct 30, 2003 9:53:47 GMT -5
That's exactly my point Hussar. I usually insist on picking up the tab half the time (although the out-dated book of "women's signals" says that means it's not a real "date"), and I always thank a guy for opening a door, holding a chair, etc. I never insist that he should do it. Equality means everything goes both ways in my book, not just the "good" stuff.
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Post by CharleHu$$tle on Oct 30, 2003 12:35:22 GMT -5
Good for you! I thought I said so in my post, but I don't think all men are like that, that's just been my experience. Still looking for a guy that doesn't become all serious and dissaproving every time I slide into a side-stance, though. Hey what ever works man. Ate Least i got a meal out of the deal. And Hussar I am With you man. hence the Reason I do not treat WOmen as Equals
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Post by Black Robed One on Oct 30, 2003 13:10:23 GMT -5
Y'know, there is a point though. Far too many times I've been on the short end of the stick. Not only am I expected to hold doors, pick up the check, play chauffeur, etc. but, I'm also expected to treat her as an equal in all ways. Now, you can have it one way or the other, not both. If you make more money than me, howzabout you picking up the check once in a while? While I don't mind opening doors, don't automatically expect me to do so and even go so far as to wait beside the car door for me to open it. If I come around to open your door, I'm being nice, if you prompt me to do it, then open your own bloody door. I don't mind carrying the heavy bags, cos, lets face it, I'm probably stronger than you, but would it hurt to show a little appreciation once in a while? Just because I am a gentleman (at least I try), don't think that you can get everything you want. If things are going to be equal, let them be equal. (Note, I am using you as an address to some fictional female, not any one person in particular.) Hmmm... I can't really understand your point, Hussar. You claim, that you are getting the short end on the stick, but then, it is YOU who are CHOOSING to get this short end of the stick (if you can call it so), by being a gentleman. Nobody is forcing you into making this choice, so why are you whinning about it? About equality, I can't really see, why we (men) can't show our consideration and affection to women (all of them) AND threat them as equals? As Merkuri rightly said, in most cases women doesn't really need us to open and hold door for them, carry their things, step out of their way, and so on. So why, our chivalrous acts should make us any better or any worse then women? P.S.That is just my humble opinion, and I foresee, that many (I am polite, so I won't point into direction of Hussar and Charle ) will disagree with it.
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Post by CharleHu$$tle on Oct 30, 2003 13:30:20 GMT -5
Sorry BRO but when was the last time you got laid. Saounds Like you need some More testosterion
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Post by Ahnemesis on Oct 30, 2003 13:45:33 GMT -5
Yes, it does exist and is greatly appriciated by this woman. I also return the favor as well. I love to see a man blush!
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