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Post by nodwyck on Dec 10, 2003 6:26:31 GMT -5
I'm with SSD on this one. Do without the fighter type completely. At this level, a cleric isn't far behind a fighter anyways. Hp are comparable and so is fighting ability. A 5th lvl fighter has +2 BAB and 3 (combat oriented) feats more than a cleric and probably higher str and con scores. At that point cleric is far behind. Still, you can make do without a fighter, but I'd take a (halfling or gnome) pally (riding a dog) or (half-orc) barbie instead. If there is a paladin, I'd take a bard in for healer (yes, the cure wand) and party booster. Otherwise, a cleric is a must. That's two. Third would probably be wizard (dwarf or human), not for the 3rd level spells, but for the ranks in knowledge skills. Sorc would do inna pinch. The last one should be a rogue with darkvision (natural or magical). Why a rogue in the company of 1-2 tin men? He can scout ahead, and has a wide variety of useful spelunking skills, and act as a support fighter (elf, gnome or halfling rogue would be at least as difficult to hit as a paladin at this point). Besides, the tin men aren't the problem. light sources are. As long as there is at least one person without darkvision, you'll need a light source. And that pinpoints the party.
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 8, 2003 6:32:28 GMT -5
Oh hardly the same tactics. One it takes the ability to cast spells to use the Grease or Web spells. To use the Tanglefoot Bag it takes a character who has an arm free to throw the damned things and a few coins in his pouch. The two do NOT equate. Draxy Drax, you're talking mechanics, not tactics. the tactic is to hinder opponent's movement. it's still the same. for the composite bow thingy (3.5E) - add super-high str (by items or whatever) and the sure strike ability to the bow, specialization and whatnot, and you just might deal REALLY nasty damage to that distance. use manyshot with elemental (frost, flame, corrosive or screaming) bow. of course, a couple ranger levels help in this (specialization and species enemy damage are no longer precision-based, and apply to all shots to any range). and if any of you dogs try this in my game, there's an improved sunder coming right atcha. Oh, and the bow has 2½ times the normal range increment, not 3 times (not that it changes things much). A thrown weapon would have 3x range increment.
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 10, 2003 5:25:17 GMT -5
FR, I have campaigns all over the setting.
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 8, 2003 6:01:47 GMT -5
I use the 3.5 rules. they just make more sense to me. the changes to most classes are GOOD, especially those monk, paladin and ranger changes. skill changes are great. just look at the jump skill. no exclusive skills (it was pretty stupid rule to boot). ok so the armor check penalty of swimming is kinda trivial now, but that's about the only thing I'm keeping from the old books. monster changes make sense, with the 'standard' feat progression and all. most of the CR changes are pretty good too, just check out hill giants and ettins. damage reduction and energy resistances work nicely now (you might want to invest in a silvered weapon now).
so what if the core books cost another 80€ (or 112.5€ if you pay the list price here)? it's around the price of a night spent boozing.
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Post by nodwyck on Feb 17, 2004 4:32:25 GMT -5
character classes aside, your character might think that he's a paladin, and that Cyric is the true good or true Law. And if your character isn't actually clergy, he could be of any nongood alignment. If you have that CE warrior, he could be just insane, seeing peasants as devils and whatnot. You don't have to be a ex-paladin to get the Blk prestige, although it helps. It's possible that your character doesn't even know that he heeds the call of the Prince of Lies.
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Post by nodwyck on Jan 29, 2004 4:23:07 GMT -5
aaand here we go again.
1. The clergy rule. Any divine caster should be within one alignment step of her deity (in cyric's case, it's CE/CN/NE)
2.alignment rules: Paladin - LG only. 2E assassin - any nongood. 3E assassin - any evil.
If we're talking about 3E, it's not necessary to be a rogue first, although whatever your DM says, goes. In 2E, assassin is a thief kit.
3E pro palassassins: BoED has the prestige class - can't remember the name. For ex-paladins, trade in the paladin leveis for blackguard levels (if you have 11+ pally lvls), then take up asn lvls if you meet the prereqs. Still, if your char isn't LG, he's not a paladin.
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 8, 2003 9:32:25 GMT -5
LE makes more sense to me. Organized, very efficient cruelty, living only for his ideals of a perfect world, welcoming the growing pains of the next incarnation of his world ... that's where the real nasties live. Paladins obey the spirit of law, antipaladins use the Word of law for their own purposes, twisting the real purpose to justify damn nearly anything.
CE isn't a bad idea either, but I can't see a highly (destructively) impulsive man being a champion of anything - CE is the alignment for those that fear the bully (and want to be one), that is, low-intelligence naughtiness.
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Post by nodwyck on Feb 4, 2004 9:15:00 GMT -5
Welcome to the garden. Just dont tread on the flowers and you'll be fine.
I'm nod, the unseen weirdo of the boards.
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Post by nodwyck on Feb 4, 2004 9:24:55 GMT -5
and all that. Can't really point out anything that the others didn't, except... The forums need more game-related crap... pissing contests about the rules, questioning the 'official' stuff and so on. visit the AD&D and 3E forums and do that.
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Post by nodwyck on Feb 4, 2004 9:22:10 GMT -5
and all that.
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Post by nodwyck on Feb 4, 2004 9:21:11 GMT -5
and all that.
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 9, 2003 9:04:53 GMT -5
OW: no, that was in general, and wouldn't confuse you with Shade
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 9, 2003 3:51:31 GMT -5
all my friends are here, under the stairs, with all their toys...So glad to see you all! feels like home already. And Shades, I thought it was you. Thanks for the warm welcome!
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 8, 2003 9:11:02 GMT -5
LWW, you sweet thing you! This fall has been really hectic (40-60h /week work, and school stuff on top of that), but when I got to PADnD, there's nothing left for me. I don't know how, but I got into the old forums and it became oh so verry clear. oh, and Black robed one, I do remember you too. If things calm down at home, I'll be here a couple days and nights a week, but still, my time zone (GMT +2 and the 19th century) makes my replies either caffeine-distorted, or late. any good freeform games on?
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Post by nodwyck on Dec 8, 2003 5:21:38 GMT -5
greetings, good folks!
thanks to LWW, I finally made it here.
name's nod, part-time village idiot, confused rules lawyer popcorn vendor and a beer monster (in Star Wars terms I'm something of a crossbreed between C3PO, Jar-Jar and Jabba The Hutt).
been gaming and DMing for about 15 years (minus an occasional coffee break), mostly D&D.
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